Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. A woman convicted in the 1994 murders of a Catasauquawoman and the victim's 3-month-old son was back in court on Tuesday. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. Prince Andrew is refusing to leave his home at Royal Lodge and instead is demanding a mansion "fit for a King", according to royal sources. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Despite his detention, he continues to enjoy the support of his millions of online followers. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. . Thats my life.. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. I dont think so. And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. No show. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. In 1993, Katrinak married Joann Marie Katrinak and the couple had a son, Alex, the next year. Thank you Kerry. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Not everything is a conspiracy. Andrew lived at address. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Please subscribe to keep reading. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. . DNA also doesnt lie. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina,. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! What definition? Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Am I missing something? Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background You say by definition! Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. Dial-a-problem. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been jailed in . She had money put aside. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? You should be ashamed of yourself. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. And NOBODY saw her at all? Thank you and well said. What a contrived case! ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. 5 years prior to all this happening! Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. Just one example. Police said the couple moved in together and had a 1-year-old baby daughter. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. (Panik) Katrinak. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Nailed? Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. It makes me sick. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. ``She was mainly worried about her little girl,' Myers recalled. Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! Not gender neutral. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Stayed tuned - Alex Murdaugh's sordid tale is just getting started, Alex Murdaugh's head is shaved as he is booked into South Carolina prison fortress for weeks of evaluation before being sent to a maximum security facility housing the 'worst of the worst', At least 10 dead as wild storms lash the U.S: Tornadoes and golf ball-sized hail topples trucks and leaves one million without power in Kentucky, Alabama and Arkansas - after dumping 17 feet of snow in California, Massive gas tanker crashes in Maryland and EXPLODES into fireball killing the driver and setting local residents' homes ablaze as large plumes of black smoke and embers billow from crash site, 'I want to be a French child!' When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Mary was born in August 1891, in Connecticut. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Just saying. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. I dont think so. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. He said she paid her bills on time, fed his horse along with hers and comforted him when his father died in December. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. After the King told the Duke of York of planned budget cuts to royal funds, the disgraced royal has since refused to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Lodge in Windsor. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. The first rule of a murder is motive. Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! No charmed life. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. It was Mr Tates third appeal against his detention since his arrest. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Hoist by your own petard. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. They broke up in 1993. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Counsel for Patricia Rorrer, 52, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, WFMZ-TV 69 reports. Youll have to make do with what you see here. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? Start your Independent Premium subscription today. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. It was Patricias hair no question. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. It has very bad energy. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. Davidson County sheriff's deputies searched Rorrer's house in Linwood and volunteered to keep an eye on her after hours. Search by Name Search . Find Andrew Katrinak's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Search their Criminal Records, Contact Info, Photos and More 1) Andrew Katrinak's Phone & Current Address, Andrew Katrinak's Phone #, Address & More, Andrew Katrinak's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@gmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@yahoo, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@hotmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@aol, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@outlook. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. In recent weeks, the King has reportedly asked all members of the royal family to tighten their belts and to expect less money from the Duchy now owned by Charles than in the past. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. SHAME ON THEM. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. Browse Locations. Omg so well put! She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. All Rights Reserved. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. ``They did the technical stuff, DNA testing and all that, and we did the grunt police work,' Hege said. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Had there been a switch? Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. Animals would have for sure. You are absolutely right. According to a police affidavit, Rorrer called the Katrinak house in mid-December 1994. They blocked each exit to make sure police couldn't extradite Rorrer before they saw her. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. All Filters. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! Find 4 people named Andrew Katrinak along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. The real killer is Rorrer! No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! The Duke of York appeared cheerful when . She returned to North Carolina in 1991. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. It seems so, according to you. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. This woman killed and is where she belongs! DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Andrew F Katrinak was born on month day 1882, at birth place. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. You have permission to edit this article. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Search is on. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. None. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. The influencer has View Andrew Katrinak's record in Drake, CO including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Chambers also didn't want to speak about her daughter. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Jealousy was the motive. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. Prior to his incarceration, Mr Tates had a medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition, his team said. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. False. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. U.S.M.C. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Yeah, no. Very similar. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. The District Attorney got this one right. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. (Nope. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. ``I didn't know her back then, but I don't think she could begin to do what she's been accused of doing,' Myers said. What evidence is there she actually left the state? And Patricia did live in another state. Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . Youre absolutely right!! This is all BS.She did it. Sad discovery. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Probably by the jeans and the boots. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. And Patricia wasnt all edges. Andrew Katrinak told police he refused to speak to her, and Joann Katrinak warned Rorrer not to call back. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). Byrd Jr. of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. Patty is my cousin. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder.
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